Members Only
Use chat room, Create your own member column (and earn revenue from that column!), create a photo gallery, create a video gallery, create and vote in polls, post in the forum, create your own friend network, and much, much more!
Click here to join - it's free!
The Ones that Got Away...my version :)

OK - I would like to take a stab at this for fun :)
Yes there are lots of bigger name position players we can talk about - Tim is doing a great job on that so far and I might write about some as I think of them. One player transaction that still sticks in my gut from all the way back in the year 2000 is the one I want to talk about today because I still honestly don't know what happened...
For the 2000 season training camp the Cowboys brought in a kicker with a big leg from Washington State named Ryan Lindell. He had a good college career and was for a strong accurate leg.
He began training camp perfectly hitting long field goals, short field goals, deep kickoffs - the works. As a matter of fact the running story around town is that this kid had not missed a single kick at all in camp.
I was excited to see this since the Cowboys had struggled mightly the year before with Richie Cunningham and even, of all people, Eddie Murray. I went to camp to personally watch him kick (and of course all the other action) and I had seen what I needed to see - I said to myself "give this kid the job and he will kick here for 10+ years". I was thrilled our kicking woes were over.
Then something weird happened - the Cowboys brought in somone to "challenge" Lindell - an unknown named Tim Seder from Ashland College. Where? Exactly - noone knew...
Seder also began making kicks and a duel of sorts started in camp. Neither kicker was missing ANYTHING. However, when seeing the kickers in person there was a noticeable difference in the two of them. Seder would make his field goals but always with just enough room to spare. The ball did not expode off his foot and he did not get particularly deep kickoffs. Lindell on the other hand always commanded a loud "thud" when he hit the ball and it always sailed comfortably through with plenty of room to spare.
So - I thought - ok there is nothing to worry about here - the job is still Lindell's. Then a weird thing started happening - people starting talking about Seder because of his "story" - being an unknown and small in stature. Stil I thought - who cares - none of that crap really matters unless you outperform someone on the football field.
I was proven wrong on that count - both kickers went through the entire preseason and if I remember correctly neither missed a FG. Lindell was the stronger kicker but Seder had the better story.
At the end of camp I was SHOCKED to here they had given the job to Seder and Lindell had been released. I remember that day saying to myself "the Cowboys are going to really regret this..." Seattle needless to say immediately snapped up Lindell. To give you an idea of the results of both of these decisions...
Lindell has been an extremely successfull NFL kicker since the 2000 season. His career FG percentage is over 80% and he is the most accurate kicker in Buffalo Bills history. Yes - let me make that clear - in the conditions in BUFFALO - he is over 80% and their most accurate kicker ever. He consistently is in double digits in touchbacks every season - had 10 in 2008.
Since 2000 the Cowboys have employed the following group of kickers:
- Tim Seder
- Jon Hilbert
- Billy Cundiff
- Jose Cortez
- Mike Vanderjagt
- Martin Grammatica
And there are probably even a few more in there I think I have forgotten. Now to his credit Seder kicked very well in his rookie year and it "almost" looked like a good long term decision. However, he always seemed a bit shaky and in his second season he began falling apart. Lindell however kept getting better...
I can't possibly calculate the number of games lost due to poor kicking over these years. I especially paid more attention to it during the Parcells years when they brought in Vanderjagt. I paid attention all season that year and based on either missed field goals or having to manage the game differently because of shaky kicking I counted 3 games we lost in the 10-6 year because of kicking. Yes I do honestly think we could have been 13-3 that year...go back and watch the games - the kicking was HORRIBLE and Parcells manages the game to be close so it killed us...
The moral of this very long story is - kickers are important and never let a good story keep you from snagging a real talent when you have one...a good story is great in the short term but winning games is a much better story in the long run...
I am very pleased to say we seem to have a long term answer in Folk - I wish he was better at kickoffs but he outstanding at FGs and we can manage our game knowing he will consistently be over 80%. However, don't think I wasn't nervous when I saw him and Grammatica fighting it out in camp - I thought I was going to see the same mistake again but this time they got it right...
Thanks Goodness...
- Danny Smith's blog
- Login or register to post comments

Couldn't agree more about
Couldn't agree more about Hoffman. I am so glad those years are behind us - the constant nightmare of trying to find a reliable kicker can affect entire coaching strategies, game plans and even other personnel decisions.
Jerry was trying to go cheap on certain positions to load up on others and it backfired. He tried to do it even at head coach and that of course backfired as well although even he admits now that he did not give Chan Gailey enough time (but the Dave Campo thing was a complete fiasco).
However, whatever blame Jerry takes for decisions that have backfired always has to come with the credit of bringing us Super Bowl victories. Now with those years so far behind us however it is time to let go of old notions like trying to find cheap kickers and coaches and instead spend what it takes to get the right people in place to help us get back to where we need to be...
Danny Smith
Dallas Cowboys Fan Network Creator and Administrator
Wow, great one. I had totally
Wow, great one. I had totally forgotten the Cowboys had Lindell in camp that year. No doubt there were a lot of close losses in the Parcells era that could havce gone the other way with a good kicker.
I think you hit the nail on the head as far as Seder's "story" helping him make the team. He did not just go to a small school, he was several years out of college (26 years old, I think) and had been teaching middle school back in Ohio. It's a great story, and he did have some good games and even a few rushing TDs on trick plays.
I think part of the problem was that the Cowboys had built up some kind of mystique around kicking coach Steve Hoffman - that he could just take guys off the street and make them into NFL kickers. It was never really true, but the All Pro rookie year of 26-year-old Richie Cunningham in 1997 made a real impact on people's impressions. They forget that Cunningham lasted 2 1/2 years, getting cut mid-season in 1999. Still, that "Steve Hoffman can find a kicker anyplace" notion may well have been part of the bias against guys with pedgrees, like RIan Lindell.